Curse

Rohan · Jan 21, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

<3 runners..I've completed every campaign multiple times and if I get the chance to skip parts I've done on other characters, then I'll be sure to do so.

I don't mind paying 300g for a KC run on a survivor character. I do care when I see runners trick someone into thinking that a run to KC is difficult

EPO Bot · Jan 21, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

They defeat the purpose of PvE completely, but they don't ever get in my way.

HawkofStorms · Jan 21, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Runners are only bad if it is your first time through the game or when they are basically scamming people (like the marketplace to KC "runners"). Learn to play before you start taking shortcuts.

Kasai · Jan 21, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

I like runners, they've helped me a lot throughout my time on GW. I respect them greatly, I can't stand hanging around outposts waiting for a full team to run.

I agree that KC runners are rather pathetic, though.

hallomik · Jan 21, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I see running (map travel and mission running) the way a lot of people seem to view Ursan Blessing. It is a designed-in-by-Anet method to avoid doing the content the “right” way in order to save time and get to the desired end result faster and easier.

I think players who get runs are cheating themselves out of the full PVE experience. I personally have never paid for a run, however I don’t spend my time getting upset by things the game design clearly allows. Think about how many skills specifically facilitate running.

Based on appearance of gates in the games following Prophesies, it would seem the designers came to see running (across maps) as hurting the game in a way they apparently do not (yet) with UB.

Sirius-NZ · Jan 21, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

I don't mind runners, it's the people that pay for them I hold in contempt.

Aera Lure · Jan 21, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

I have absolutely no problems with runners at all, provided they are honest. I also have no problems at all with them charging what they wish, as its a free market. If someone doesnt like the price offered, dont pay it and seek someone else, but insults are unnecessary, as are scams, from either party.

I dont buy the runners (or runnees) killing the game argument by any stretch. They're just getting places. Most everyone is someone with many characters. All of my characters went back and completed everything they missed by getting a run somewhere else, if they got one. Some didnt. Some I ran myself. Its simply nice to get to where you want when you want sometimes, and its a nice gameplay challenge/option on top of it (in most cases) to actually be able to run.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Runners are only bad if it is your first time through the game or when they are basically scamming people ... edit ...

This I would agree with.

Clarissa F · Jan 21, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

If you've done the Shing Jea missions yourself, there should be no way, even if you are going for survivor, that you should need a run to KC. Level up. It doesn't take long on that island. If you are so lazy that even that is too slow...sad, sad puppy.

Otherwise, the runs are nice. Hell, I sometimes think the Drok's run was made as a yardstick for runners.

Scarlett · Jan 21, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Playing through the game with my first toon and collecting all the stuff I needed for better collector armor = priceless.

Second toon = not priceless...

Third toon = lfr to drok's, etc.

Destro Maniak · Jan 21, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

GOD BLESS RUNNERS. THANK GOD WE HAVE RUNNERS!
I would be bored very much if there werent runners to run borin places and missions

great sir s · Jan 21, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

i love how when youre looking for a run, and some preacher ALWAYS goes up to you and asks why youre getting ran. seriously its my damn decision so go die ^^

its like, they ask you why youre skipping parts of the game, im like "maybe im rich, lazy, and have no patience for annoying parts in the game. ,,!,, " then theyre like haha you might as well not play then! yea RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you -_-

TaCktiX · Jan 21, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

I hate running. Refuse to have it done for me, refuse to do it. Then again I suppose I'm backwards for not minding taking my 4th character through Prophecies, 6th through Factions, and 5th through Nightfall...

Phoenix Tears · Jan 21, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

imo anet could remove all these run skills..they are senseless, only good for fleeing and without them , runners and rushers (rushed ones) would die out ^^

quickmonty · Jan 21, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

I think it's stupid to pay someone to play the game for you. Never paid for a run.

Dev121 · Jan 21, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Running was one of the most enjoyable aspects of the game for me and many others in the old days. When the main stream of professional runners were in the game then you could make millions daily doing simple tasks because people didnt enjoy them, they are kind of a cheat but most of the time you pay for that cheat so its not so much of a cheat but more of a helping hand. I made stupid amounts when I did it so im happy. Would I pay a runner now? No, dont be stupid....

People charge like 1k for forge runs now its a complete joke and the best part is most of them die at the first tunnel. Fun Times. Scammers are a bad deal for runners thou but I use to get it up front so it wasn't so much of a problem for me but for the majority it was.

Age · Jan 21, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

The KC run is pretty easy and you don't need a fully lvled player unless you are a Survivor or going the way to The Market Place.

Tyla · Jan 21, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Runners + bad players = perfikt match...
They defeat the purpose of "playing"

Lord Natural · Jan 22, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

Running is the best thing about pve. Shame on anet for mucking it up in Factions, and to a lesser extent, nightfall.

Yichi · Jan 22, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Run Forest Run!!!

Biostem · Jan 22, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

My opinion of runners is rather neutral:

The only runners I ever use are ones to the consulate docks, otherwise I get myself everywhere.

I take offense to runners who overcharge; I ran a person going for survivor from the marketplace to KC for free, because someone advertising was asking for way too much.

The biggest issue I have, though, is when I hear people complain that there is nothing to do or the game is too easy, after they got a run for their max armor and find going back to where they left off too easy or boring...